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Your last sentence says it all - there's no way you can plan what teenagers will turn out like.

Even teenagers who smoke at bus stops and wear stupid clothes turn out OK in the end. It's all part of growing up.

This is all very organised -is it wrong that I'm just planning to wing it and see what happens?!

Not at all - it's just that Nick and I are both ultra-organised. I think that's the problem. We think too much, and that's what puts us off. I think that there is a large degree of winging it needed!

There are certain things which I have seen in others that work really well - getting the baby into a routine as early on as possible though, oh, and not leaving potty training too late - my sister's having a nightmare with her 3 year old.

I guess I'm lucky in that we have a lot of friends and we're learning bits of what to do and what not to do from them. I think we just have to stop thinking so much!

I don't know how you instil closeness in families. Mine isn't particularly close - when my grandad's brother came over from Australia to visit London, after many, many years, my grandad couldn't be bothered to go down from Leeds to see him, which sort of sets the tone for all of us. But, on the other hand, I suddenly became good friends with one of my brothers a couple of years ago, so maybe it just happens spontaneously.

I wouldn't send your children to camp though - I have nothing but bad memories of it, although I'm sure it's fine for the small minority who had the right shoes and put out.

I don't know how you can instil closeness either - my family would never be friends with each other if we were not related - we are all very different - but somehow we get on like a house on fire.

My sister and I are extremely close now, we played a lot together when we were little children but we fought like cat and dog in our teens, couldn't stand the sight of each other. I don't know why relationships change like this. I don't think anything our parents did had much impact on it one way or the other.

Aren't we all at least a bit terrified? I'm terrified that my child/children will grow up to dislike me - or even hate me - or maybe just be indifferent to me. There seem to be quite a lot of people who don't like their parents very much (me included) but parents can only ever do their best. I think that given the choice between you (who thinks too much, as probably do I) and my own parents who think far too little, I'd choose us. You'll love them, you'll make mistakes, but most people turn out just fine and the rest, well, is that really down to their parents anyway? - Everyone makes their own choices ultimately.

You're right... I am a firm believer in parents being parents and children being children - I don't want to be my kids' best friend, but I am so worried that they will hate me.

I think it hurts my parents that us as siblings aren't as close as they would like, and that we're not as interested in being friends with our cousins etc. However, they brought us up to be independent, so I guess you can't have it both ways!

Then again, I have heard of people who are incredibly close to their parents and siblings, and it has meant that they have had difficulty forming relationships with partners etc. as no one ever lives up to the bond they have with family.

You can't win, can you?! There is no right and wrong answer. I think that's what scares me the most, the lack of apparent control over these things!

My family are close, but that's not be confused with living in each other's pockets. The matching clothes, family movie night and summer camp sound like my idea of living hell, but each to their own.
I only meant matching clothes on Christmas Day - not at all times! Man, that's just weird.
If people knew what was involved in rearing children, they would never do it. Not that it isn't great. That isn't what I mean. It would be like looking at your whole working life in a pile on your desk. You would run screaming! Children come as babies (mostly!) and you deal with the day to day. Most of the things I said I would never so with my children I have done. They had dummies; they didn't sleep in my room (too noisy in their sleep); they were eventually bottle fed after a period of breastfeeding etc. I have amazed myself and they have amazed me. In children you are raising little people who are individual and inspiring. I have learnt a huge amount about me in raising them.
I haven't got to the teenage bit yet. I am quite looking forward to it. I am sure they will drive me nuts but I was scared about toddlers and they were okay. I figure teenagers are a similar breed - you just have to deal with them with love and understanding.
Wow I can waffle! I am not so sure my kids would do the matching jumper thing. We do the pizza thing and a games night which is fun.
Just learn to say sorry when you get it wrong and give them plenty of love - easy!
The fact that you care enough to worry is a good sign!!

Everyone's right, and you're all speaking from experience, which is great advice to have, and I appreciate the way everyone has been so honest about their good/bad experiences.

Do you ever feel a little lost though? I mean, like you lose a part of your identity? My cousin and my sister have both said that people don't come to see them anymore, they come to see the kids....

I need to make more of a fuss of my sister, that's true. She is and will always be one of my favourite people in the world, but I just adore going to see her babies and I tend to make more of a fuss of them. I think it does irk her a bit, so I will make more of an effort.
I think a lot of how you are perceived depends on how you act with your friends and family - I've got one friend who can't hold a conversation without interrupting it with updates of what her child is doing 'Oh, now they've taken off their shoe!' 'er... yeah, so my boyfriend's left me', whereas other friends won't mention their children at all, unless we're trying to get them to go up the shop and buy us sweets.

Kate - that's so true - we have friends who can ONLY talk about their kids, or won't do certain things because of the kids - I don't want to be one of those mums (although I think a certain degree of it is inevitable), but then equally I have friends who are the opposite.

I think we've spent a good few years learning what we do and don't want.... whether or not it's possible to stick to that, I don't know!

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